My wife just got back from a trip to Boise and she got stopped twice (once going and again coming back) by an Idaho State Trooper. She was not speeding either time and she did not get any tickets. Is there something about the 300 that cops are targeting.
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If you want to sound like you're a problem if he pushes it with you say something along the lines of "Sir, that information is neither pertinent to this situation nor applicable to your plan of action pertaining thereto. Therefore I find it to be questioning my character, which is insulting Sir. I would appreciate it if you would maintain a line of questioning that IS applicable to your reason for stopping me Sir, it's far more reasonable."
I have scared them directly back in their cars with things like that. The "Sir" shows respect for their position but the rest says "I know the law and have had a couple dumbass cops like you fired." I spent half my life traveling interstates as I used to road race motorcycles. All my travels on the highway trying to make time up and down the east coast definitely led to some conversations with stateys. It's tough to blend on the highway with a dually and a 32 foot trailer after all...
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If you want to sound like you're a problem if he pushes it with you say something along the lines of "Sir, that information is neither pertinent to this situation nor applicable to your plan of action pertaining thereto. Therefore I find it to be questioning my character, which is insulting Sir. I would appreciate it if you would maintain a line of questioning that IS applicable to your reason for stopping me Sir, it's far more reasonable."
I have scared them directly back in their cars with things like that. The "Sir" shows respect for their position but the rest says "I know the law and have had a couple dumbass cops like you fired." I spent half my life traveling interstates as I used to road race motorcycles. All my travels on the highway trying to make time up and down the east coast definitely led to some conversations with stateys. It's tough to blend on the highway with a dually and a 32 foot trailer after all...
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Agreed, One night i was in downtown vancouver in canada.. and i got stopped twice in 5 minutes...
First time, Quoting the cop, "Dont Accelerate Too Fast, People cross streets and you wouldnt want to hit one."
Second, "$109 ticket for Tinted windows..." in front 2 sides.. <--***
the first time a motorcycle cop pulled me over, the second a car...
Plus why dont they want tinted windows in b.c anyways? its such a stupid rule, plus i believe like over 10% of cars do it.. and it adds extreme coolness to cars..
Again, Cops have nothing to do but pull over chrysler 300's, while theres gang shootings every night... Got to get there act together.
One of the reasons behind it is because they do not want to walk up to your vehicle, have you roll down the window they cannot see through, and be greeted by staring down the barrel of a gun. I agree with you, though - I am having a hard time decding whether or not to tint my 300C as I do not think it would look right with just the back three tinted. No shop with their heads on straight would tint front windows here anyway ... the fines are incredible. I am from the Kootenay's. There are no other 300's in my town - needless to say, it attracts a bit of attention from local law enforcement.
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Next time you get stopped, AFTER you've politely received your ticket, ask the trooper if the brand/type of car you drive attracts attention. Then politely give him your opinion that it is a bit unfair characterization to pre-judge it as possibly criminal related, since all sorts of state/local PDs drive Dodge Chargers and all sorts of Federal LE agencies drive Chrysler 300s. Just a thought, I know it won't do any good
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Its true. i too have been "hated on" by the police down in Orange county Florida they pulled me over because i stopped past the line at the light (and barley too i was probably sitting on the line on a back road) but then they tried to say i was going fast but didn't clock me and then ended up telling me he'd give me a warning but since"they where almost at shift change as he said 4 county cars and a city cop all pulled in the parking lot to see what was goin on and one guys like i just got this off ebay lets try it it was a tint meter of course i had 5 percent all around and they ended up ginvg me 6 separate $71.50 Tickets..Bastards..but now i also got pulled over for running a stop sign by a SRT8 all black 300c with 22s(Apopka) i saw him and was messing with him kinda swerving back n forth in the lane ahead of him and then i look back and theres blue lights WTF! he let me go but that was crazy they drive everything nowat:
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5% can't be legal, is it? And if it is not legal, why do you have it? Running stop signs?....... not good, my friend.Its true. i too have been "hated on" by the police down in Orange county Florida they pulled me over because i stopped past the line at the light (and barley too i was probably sitting on the line on a back road) but then they tried to say i was going fast but didn't clock me and then ended up telling me he'd give me a warning but since"they where almost at shift change as he said 4 county cars and a city cop all pulled in the parking lot to see what was goin on and one guys like i just got this off ebay lets try it it was a tint meter of course i had 5 percent all around and they ended up ginvg me 6 separate $71.50 Tickets..Bastards..but now i also got pulled over for running a stop sign by a SRT8 all black 300c with 22s(Apopka) i saw him and was messing with him kinda swerving back n forth in the lane ahead of him and then i look back and theres blue lights WTF! he let me go but that was crazy they drive everything now
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i didn't just blow through it i just like barley came to a stop and kept rollin not the 3 seconds they want u to but it was in a neighborhood side street so there was noone else around but anyways. its 15 on the back 28 on the front in Florida i bought mine with the tint already on it its black u cant see in even in the daytime i knew id get puled for it one day but not at night when they pull u over then r just looking for any reason to ticket u.
i hear you brother.
i already wrote about stop signs here. it must be even in this thread. nonetheless, stop means a complete stop. no point to complain.
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the only reason i was mad is that he pulled me in a 300c on twenty fours that they probably took from a guy the day before cus it was nice then the lights pop oni hear you brother.
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Well just got pulled over twice this Friday one for being on a cell phone and about 8hrs later by a bridge and tunnle cop for tinted tails,windows and following to close.He told me my back windows were to dark I already changed the front windows to 50%.The cell phone ticket I got but my freind new a cop that new the officer that gave me the ticket and he threw it out,and the the one on the bridge I talked my way out of it.So I got pretty lucky.But still have to pay the red light camera ticket.
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I wondered about the tinted tails and how much people got harassed for that. That was possibly going to be my next mod but I don't need to give police anymore reasons to pull me over.
You did get lucky with the tickets. I've been fortunate enough where I haven't had that many but I know they can be expensive.
I didn't even post this but I got pulled over again on Monday for my halo fogs. I found the law that said you can't have blue or red lights on front of the car so I went with green. I got pulled over, the officer explained why, I told him that I had already been pulled over and explained that I thought the law stated no blue or red lights. He was like "That is correct but there's another section that says no distracting lights like what you have or ground effects." He ran my license and said "Just keep the lights off. The green really grabs our attention." I came back home and couldn't find any law about distracting lights so I don't know what to say.
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This should bother every one.
I had a sincere laugh over the dilemma. LOL
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Wow^
Heres something to piss everyone off
Florida window tint law - Police Forums & Law Enforcement Forums @ Officer.com
Ive been pulled over soo many times becuase of profiling. I was pulled over with stock tint. Thats 35% in the front and 28% on the back. The legal limit its 28% on the front and 15% in the back. These cops love pulling ppl with tint over just to mess with them and find something wrong. It sickens me...
Heres something to piss everyone off
Florida window tint law - Police Forums & Law Enforcement Forums @ Officer.com
Ive been pulled over soo many times becuase of profiling. I was pulled over with stock tint. Thats 35% in the front and 28% on the back. The legal limit its 28% on the front and 15% in the back. These cops love pulling ppl with tint over just to mess with them and find something wrong. It sickens me...
I live in Tampa. I haven't ever been pulled over but I know that the cops can pull over a car to check the tint with a meter.
If it's too dark, you have to remove it right there or get a ticket.
I sell and install window film and have always said that if you want to get pulled over, put on dark tint thats darker than legal.
Cops hate it because they can't see in the car when they're walking up on it.
If it's too dark, you have to remove it right there or get a ticket.
I sell and install window film and have always said that if you want to get pulled over, put on dark tint thats darker than legal.
Cops hate it because they can't see in the car when they're walking up on it.
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Well, it upset me just a bit. It took me a minute to figure out what PC meant. PC = probable cause???? My question would be probable cause of what but I guess if you want to pull over a car for whatever reason and you don't have any reason other than the tint, that's all you need. Oh well. I'm learning to just keep it legal. I doubt the hassle and headache is worth it.
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I'm not sure what bothers me more, his bad spelling or the fact he feels entitled to risk everyone's lives so he can drive while on the phone like an idiot.
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Finally! 16 pages to read before I wanted to post my opinion.
The first and foremost thing I want to get out there... Cops are regular guys like you and me. Some are Idiots (please see Webster's definition if you don't know what that word means), some guys are in the middle and just collecting a paycheck and some guys are pretty good at their job.
I've read every post on this thread. It is important to know that an officer cannot stop a vehicle unless he has probable cause (a violation) or reasonable suspicion of a crime was committed or will be committed.
If a cop asks where are you going, it is a question in an attempt to catch one in a lie. Example: COP: "Where are you going?" DRIVER: "Home" COP: "home is three blocks behind you, why would you be driving away from your house if you were going home." A small example but you get the point.
If one cop pulls you over and more cops show up, that doesn't mean that he called them, they are just backing him up... or he called them because he thought a arrest was going to be made and the driver was being a smarta$$ by telling the cop that he sells rocks. At the time a driver admits to selling an illegal substance, there is something called a V-NOTE, officer can and will post onto a license plate response for officer safety information. Where there are drugs, there are guns.
If there is more than one cop and you are mad because he has backup, think of this. If there are 20,000 people in a community and there are 20 Patrol officers, that's 1 per a thousand. But on a shift, there may only be 4 cops on for that 8 hours. So now it's 4 guys responsible for 20,000 people. If you had to deal with a potentially dangerous situation...would you want to be alone?
For all of you who have made STUPID comments like, Cops pull people over for tints because they can't see the driver and it makes them mad or jealous. JEALOUS: Yes because cops can't have tint's, they are illegal. Some Departments like Chicago suspend cops for having illegal items on their vehicle or even having a tail light out. MAKES THEM MAD: Wrong, all serious enforcement started with Captain Robbie Edward Bishop of the Villa Rica Police Department in Georgia. He was innovator of the current drug interdiction policies used by the 5-0 all over the country and probably has the record for most drugs seized. He walks up to a car with tints and gets shot in the head right through the drivers side window because he couldn't see the guy pointing the gun at him. The guys in Collinsville Missouri are hard core with his policy and have gotten more drugs from those interstates than the border patrol. If tints are illegal in your state, your most likely going to get pulled over. Why you ask, because it's illegal... and quota's.
Time of day... or night more specifically. If it's past midnight, some states allow it as P.C. (probable cause). It is unusual for people to be out at that time of night. The P.C. is intensified if the area is a high crime area.
One of the things that all of you haven't even considered, you do not know the law as well as the cops. Here in Illinois it is illegal for any vehicle to modify their exhaust system. It is illegal for wheels or tires to exceed the boundaries of the body of the vehicle.
There are also laws pertaining to correct vehicle height, type of lights, seatbelt, visual obstruction of the windshield (for those of you who have radar), amount of time/distance required to signal and when you are to pull over (for the guy who wanted to get home before he pulled over, it's called fleeing and eluding, you see blue and reds, you stop or risk dragged out of the car) and my personal favorite which is also a favorite of NARC cops that need P.C. is the License plate light. I could go on for quite some time with these.
Unless you sit down with the (insert your state here) Vehicle Code book and learn all the B.S. that cops can pull you over for, your probably not in the know. AND THAT'S OKAY! 96% of people don't know that proper traffic laws. The other 4% are most likely cops.
I'm not saying there isn't racial profiling, (although it's difficult to see the driver when they pass a cop by at 20mph over posted) or through tints. I'm not saying that there are no bored Barney Fife's in Mayberry, all I'm saying is that maybe you should go to citydata.com and check your city for the most prevalent types of crimes. In small rural towns, it has been known that it is the most likely place to make Meth because of the seclusion and the easy access to Anhydrous ammonia. If your in the City like I am, well it's a free for all what they could ask you. Most of the time the cop is just asking to ask because there is a suspicion. If the very Beautiful and expensive 300C is rollin through Flint Michigan in a high crime area where drugs and poverty is the norm, well the cop might ask about drugs or weapons in the vehicle or where you might be going.
Try to give the cops the benefit of the doubt. Some cops are ridiculous with the little B.S. that they enforce, some have a good reason, but all of them have the CHOICE to take away your driving privileges. Oh, I forgot to mention that driving is a privilege and not a right. If the cops pulls you over for B.S. and lets you go, feel lucky you don't have to spend $55.00 - $150.00 on a ticket or 200+ on an attorney.
I will answer any questions you guys have and try to put as much as I can in perspective.
The first and foremost thing I want to get out there... Cops are regular guys like you and me. Some are Idiots (please see Webster's definition if you don't know what that word means), some guys are in the middle and just collecting a paycheck and some guys are pretty good at their job.
I've read every post on this thread. It is important to know that an officer cannot stop a vehicle unless he has probable cause (a violation) or reasonable suspicion of a crime was committed or will be committed.
If a cop asks where are you going, it is a question in an attempt to catch one in a lie. Example: COP: "Where are you going?" DRIVER: "Home" COP: "home is three blocks behind you, why would you be driving away from your house if you were going home." A small example but you get the point.
If one cop pulls you over and more cops show up, that doesn't mean that he called them, they are just backing him up... or he called them because he thought a arrest was going to be made and the driver was being a smarta$$ by telling the cop that he sells rocks. At the time a driver admits to selling an illegal substance, there is something called a V-NOTE, officer can and will post onto a license plate response for officer safety information. Where there are drugs, there are guns.
If there is more than one cop and you are mad because he has backup, think of this. If there are 20,000 people in a community and there are 20 Patrol officers, that's 1 per a thousand. But on a shift, there may only be 4 cops on for that 8 hours. So now it's 4 guys responsible for 20,000 people. If you had to deal with a potentially dangerous situation...would you want to be alone?
For all of you who have made STUPID comments like, Cops pull people over for tints because they can't see the driver and it makes them mad or jealous. JEALOUS: Yes because cops can't have tint's, they are illegal. Some Departments like Chicago suspend cops for having illegal items on their vehicle or even having a tail light out. MAKES THEM MAD: Wrong, all serious enforcement started with Captain Robbie Edward Bishop of the Villa Rica Police Department in Georgia. He was innovator of the current drug interdiction policies used by the 5-0 all over the country and probably has the record for most drugs seized. He walks up to a car with tints and gets shot in the head right through the drivers side window because he couldn't see the guy pointing the gun at him. The guys in Collinsville Missouri are hard core with his policy and have gotten more drugs from those interstates than the border patrol. If tints are illegal in your state, your most likely going to get pulled over. Why you ask, because it's illegal... and quota's.
Time of day... or night more specifically. If it's past midnight, some states allow it as P.C. (probable cause). It is unusual for people to be out at that time of night. The P.C. is intensified if the area is a high crime area.
One of the things that all of you haven't even considered, you do not know the law as well as the cops. Here in Illinois it is illegal for any vehicle to modify their exhaust system. It is illegal for wheels or tires to exceed the boundaries of the body of the vehicle.
There are also laws pertaining to correct vehicle height, type of lights, seatbelt, visual obstruction of the windshield (for those of you who have radar), amount of time/distance required to signal and when you are to pull over (for the guy who wanted to get home before he pulled over, it's called fleeing and eluding, you see blue and reds, you stop or risk dragged out of the car) and my personal favorite which is also a favorite of NARC cops that need P.C. is the License plate light. I could go on for quite some time with these.
Unless you sit down with the (insert your state here) Vehicle Code book and learn all the B.S. that cops can pull you over for, your probably not in the know. AND THAT'S OKAY! 96% of people don't know that proper traffic laws. The other 4% are most likely cops.
I'm not saying there isn't racial profiling, (although it's difficult to see the driver when they pass a cop by at 20mph over posted) or through tints. I'm not saying that there are no bored Barney Fife's in Mayberry, all I'm saying is that maybe you should go to citydata.com and check your city for the most prevalent types of crimes. In small rural towns, it has been known that it is the most likely place to make Meth because of the seclusion and the easy access to Anhydrous ammonia. If your in the City like I am, well it's a free for all what they could ask you. Most of the time the cop is just asking to ask because there is a suspicion. If the very Beautiful and expensive 300C is rollin through Flint Michigan in a high crime area where drugs and poverty is the norm, well the cop might ask about drugs or weapons in the vehicle or where you might be going.
Try to give the cops the benefit of the doubt. Some cops are ridiculous with the little B.S. that they enforce, some have a good reason, but all of them have the CHOICE to take away your driving privileges. Oh, I forgot to mention that driving is a privilege and not a right. If the cops pulls you over for B.S. and lets you go, feel lucky you don't have to spend $55.00 - $150.00 on a ticket or 200+ on an attorney.
I will answer any questions you guys have and try to put as much as I can in perspective.
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Thanks for the info Midnight. I've found that I get ignored around here in Utah, I've even been passed by the UHP so he could pull another guy over. It certainly helps that around here most 300 owners do actually appear to be people that fit into the Baby Boomer/Senior Citizen age bracket. Its all good. I treat the officer with respect and usually they do the same.
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Amen Midnight451. Amen.
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